Light gun/menacer/justifier

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Oct 22, 2014 11:47:24 GMT -5 @elusive said:

I believe there's also a mallet and board for some whack a mole style game (I believe it's an Australian exclusive?).

Correct, there were even two different versions ( both unlicensed & region free .. so it was sold everywhere ).

Oct 22, 2014 11:47:24 GMT -5 @elusive said:

This is all really fascinating to see all these peripherals that were created and sold that I completely missed when growing up.

Don't forget the Activator

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Oh man, I remember seeing the activator in an issue of EGM (electronic gaming monthly) back in the 90's claiming it would be perfect for eternal champions. I never had one, but I didn't think eternal champions was all that good.

Have you ever used one of these? I wonder how accurate it was (assuming not very, probably as good as the headset for the NES that you yelled "fire" into the mic to shoot your weapon in some games)

[jlf65]

I added support to sgdk for the Menacer, the Justifier (blue and red guns), the Sport Pad (SMS trackball), six button pads, the Mega Mouse, the EA tap, and the Sega Team Player tap. It's all in there. Anything other than the mouse and 3/6 button pads MUST be connected directly to the MD as taps don't handle anything but the pads and mice. About the only thing left I need to add are the SMS lightgun, and the keyboard (very hard to find).

[mkg]

Oct 22, 2014 12:07:40 GMT -5 @elusive said:

Oh man, I remember seeing the activator in an issue of EGM (electronic gaming monthly) back in the 90's claiming it would be perfect for eternal champions. I never had one, but I didn't think eternal champions was all that good.

Have you ever used one of these? I wonder how accurate it was (assuming not very, probably as good as the headset for the NES that you yelled "fire" into the mic to shoot your weapon in some games)

Hey, even you dindt need to just say fire, with blowing into the mic it would be sufficient.

[jlf65]

The Activator is just a fancy 3-button pad. I haven't used one before... not sure I'd want to. I never did get into those DDR games.

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Oct 25, 2014 2:55:26 GMT -5 jlf65 said:

The Activator is just a fancy 3-button pad.

Not exactly. It's a fancy 3-button pad when used with 3-button games .. but it actually has 16 distinct inputs ( 8 panels / beams capable of detecting high or low ). There aren't any games specifically made for the Activator though ( only Comix Zone, Eternal Champions and Mortal Kombat have proper support ) .. they should have packed-in a Menacer 6-Game style cartridge.

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Just out of curiosity, which Mortal Kombat had support for it, or did they all have support?

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Oct 25, 2014 13:32:32 GMT -5 @elusive said:

Just out of curiosity, which Mortal Kombat had support for it, or did they all have support?

Mortal Kombat 1 and 2. Apparently Streets of Rage 3 has proper support as well, but not sure how that would differ from the regular 3-button layout. Perhaps they mapped both kick ( low ) and punch ( high ) to the same beam(s).

[jlf65]

Oct 25, 2014 6:37:10 GMT -5 @moon said:

Oct 25, 2014 2:55:26 GMT -5 jlf65 said:

The Activator is just a fancy 3-button pad.

Not exactly. It's a fancy 3-button pad when used with 3-button games .. but it actually has 16 distinct inputs ( 8 panels / beams capable of detecting high or low ). There aren't any games specifically made for the Activator though ( only Comix Zone, Eternal Champions and Mortal Kombat have proper support ) .. they should have packed-in a Menacer 6-Game style cartridge.

Ah - I've never seen that before. I may have to get one to see about "native" support rather than just 3-button pad emulation.

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Oct 25, 2014 17:29:26 GMT -5 jlf65 said:

Ah - I've never seen that before. I may have to get one to see about "native" support rather than just 3-button pad emulation.

It's pretty terrible with the few games it does properly support ( and even worse with the rest ). But it could have worked for "games" specifically designed around its capabilities. For example ..

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Ha, it seems to work well as a theremin!

[tomahomae]

Oct 17, 2014 15:00:10 GMT -5 @Deleted said:

Anyway, here's a simple example that displays a "crosshair" ( uses a significant amount of damping to filter the noise )



palette rgb(4,4,4),0,0

sprite = addsprite(1,1)
propsprite sprite,2,0

on vblank gosub main
on extint gosub gun

enable interrupt vblank
enable interrupt external,1

end

main:
movesprite sprite, 54+x, 120+y
return

gun:
x = (x << 4 - x + tvscanx()) >> 4
y = (y << 4 - y + tvscany()) >> 4
return


But how to make it react on the trigger pull?