having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ?

fl
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having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? Jun 26, 2015 5:58:22 GMT -5

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Post by fl on Jun 26, 2015 5:58:22 GMT -5

hello.
for my next game, i must do transparent a second colour in my palette. it is possible, and how to do it ?
here is an example of what my work on the sprites :

http://fl.basic.free.fr/graphistes/spectrum2.jpg

i will make my tiles with the sprite on center. the colour blue will be my colour 0 (transparent of course)
those tiles will be are to diplay the playerA ( at left) and the playerB (at right)
when i will create sprites, each player will have his palette. palette 2 for A and palette 3 for player B
for a better result, i must do transparent the green and white color for player A. i hope it will be possible
thanks in advance
F.L

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? Jun 26, 2015 7:15:07 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 7:15:07 GMT -5 You can't use a second transparent color as far as I'm aware. You would most likely need to use a second palette.

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having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? Jun 27, 2015 5:16:31 GMT -5

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Post by fl on Jun 27, 2015 5:16:31 GMT -5

thanks for your reply
i'm already using a second palette for each player.
if i don't become to do the green and white pixels to transparent in this second palette, i will do them in grey, but it will be less nice...

Last Edit: Jun 27, 2015 5:17:11 GMT -5 by fl

mkg >> 9 MILLIMETER << Making Street Racing for Genesis Posts: 267	having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? Jun 27, 2015 12:56:35 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mkg on Jun 27, 2015 12:56:35 GMT -5 You might want to use 2 different sprites.

fl Jedi Master Material Posts: 93	having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? Jun 29, 2015 6:52:22 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by fl on Jun 29, 2015 6:52:22 GMT -5 yes, i could use 2 differents sprites, but i have too much sprites like this one (over 200) and it will take too much data for nothing

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having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? May 4, 2016 20:05:23 GMT -5

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Post by Sg on May 4, 2016 20:05:23 GMT -5

Hello everybody,

In this exemple, i use a cursor (sprite) which display a geometric form (tile) when i push A button. I dont understand why the black color of the tile is not transparent (for example when i hold button

 loadtiles tilep,1,143 
    palettes palp,1,0,16

 cx=145 ' 350 ,260
    cy=153'230
    
    c1=addsprite(1,1)
    propsprite c1,143,1
    movesprite c1,cx,cy
    
    loadtiles tilee,64,150
    
    
     on vblank gosub main5
	enable interrupt vblank
	end
	
MAIN5
 x=cx+1 >> 3 -16
 y=cy+1 >> 3 -16
    l = j	
    j = joypad(0)
	
	
  If j.2 then cx=cx-8

     
     if j.3 then cx=cx+8
     
      If j.0 then cy=cy-8

     
     if j.1 then cy=cy+8
     sleep a1
    
    
     
   if j.6 then
   'freesprite c1
   'c1 = addsprite(1,1)
    palettes palb,0,0,16 'background 
 loadtiles tilee,64,150
	drawtilesinc 150,x,y,8,8
   
   endif
   movesprite c1,cx,cy
 'if cx>345 then cx=345
     'if cx=<144 then cx=145
 RETURN
 
palp:
	DATAINT	$0000,$0C00,$0c00,$0eee,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000
	DATAINT	$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000
	

palb:
	DATAINT	$0000,$020e,$026e,$00ee,$0C42,$0a4a,$00c0,$0eee
	DATAINT	$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000,$0000
	
	
tilep:   ' player sprite
	DATALONG	$10101010	' Tile #0
	DATALONG	$01010100
	DATALONG	$10101010
	DATALONG	$01010100
	DATALONG	$10101010
	DATALONG	$01010100
	DATALONG	$10101010
	DATALONG	$00000000
	
tilee:
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #0
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #1
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #2
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #3
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000111
	DATALONG	$00001111
	DATALONG	$00001111
	DATALONG	$00011111
	DATALONG	$00111111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #4
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$11110000
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$11111100
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #5
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #6
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #7
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #8
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00011111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #9
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #10
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$01111111	' Tile #11
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111110	' Tile #12
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #13
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #14
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #15
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$01111111	' Tile #16
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$00111111
	DATALONG	$00111111
	DATALONG	$00011111
	DATALONG	$00001111
	DATALONG	$00001111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #17
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #18
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #19
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #20
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #21
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #22
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111110	' Tile #23
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111100
	DATALONG	$11111100
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$11110000
	DATALONG	$11110000
	DATALONG	$00000111	' Tile #24
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #25
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #26
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #27
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #28
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #29
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #30
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11100000	' Tile #31
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #32
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000111
	DATALONG	$01111111	' Tile #33
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #34
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #35
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #36
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #37
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111110	' Tile #38
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #39
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$00001111	' Tile #40
	DATALONG	$00001111
	DATALONG	$00011111
	DATALONG	$00111111
	DATALONG	$00111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #41
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #42
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #43
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #44
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #45
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #46
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11110000	' Tile #47
	DATALONG	$11110000
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$11111100
	DATALONG	$11111100
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$00111111	' Tile #48
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #49
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #50
	DATALONG	$00000111
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #51
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$01111111
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #52
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111111
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111110
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #53
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111111	' Tile #54
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111100	' Tile #55
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #56
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #57
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #58
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00111111	' Tile #59
	DATALONG	$00011111
	DATALONG	$00011111
	DATALONG	$00001111
	DATALONG	$00000111
	DATALONG	$00000011
	DATALONG	$00000001
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$11111100	' Tile #60
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$11111000
	DATALONG	$11110000
	DATALONG	$11100000
	DATALONG	$11000000
	DATALONG	$10000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #61
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #62
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000	' Tile #63
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000
	DATALONG	$00000000

Sg >> 9 MILLIMETER << Posts: 140	having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? May 16, 2016 12:42:49 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Sg on May 16, 2016 12:42:49 GMT -5 nobody knows why the transparence work at the very top of the screen but not for all the screen?

wraith >> 9 MILLIMETER << Posts: 120	having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? May 17, 2016 5:13:10 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by wraith on May 17, 2016 5:13:10 GMT -5 Drawing tiles on the same plane will overwrite the previous tiles, not overlap. The transparency you're seeing may just be a glitch.

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having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? May 17, 2016 10:19:53 GMT -5

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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 10:19:53 GMT -5

May 17, 2016 5:13:10 GMT -5 wraith said:

Drawing tiles on the same plane will overwrite the previous tiles, not overlap. The transparency you're seeing may just be a glitch.

Exactly this. There's no transparency that I'm seeing because everything is drawn on the same plane. It's not acting weird in Fusion AFAIK.

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having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? May 26, 2016 7:38:32 GMT -5

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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 7:38:32 GMT -5

One experiment might be to see if the two planes can be switched fast enough to blend colors. Say, if you wanted a blue tinted transparency have a blue background tile on one plane and switch foreground planes every other frame.

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having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ? May 26, 2016 11:50:59 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 11:50:59 GMT -5

You can trick opacity by using priorities, but you can't get 2 transparent colors.

Redrawing tiles and swapping planes will just cause flicker, no color blending. You'd need to use 2 palettes and 2 tiles (one on each plane) to get more than 15+1 colors per 8x8 pixel square.

having 2 tranparent colour in a same palette ?

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